MAL 2089
Choujikuu Seiki Orguss
超時空世紀オーガス
The Super Dimension Century Orguss
Yup
Super Dimension Century Orguss is the second of the Super Dimension Trilogy, the first being Super Dimension Fortress Macross and the third being Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross. These are all unrelated series made by the same people they just carry the same title of Super Dimension. In the US release of Robotech, they used both Macross and Southern Cross, however instead of Orguss they used Genesis Climber Mospeada instead. This lead to Orguss becoming obscure as it was never made popular. Well it's not like I would of felt any better if Harmony Gold got it's hands on this and made a censored version. However because of that it's terrible abomination of a sequel (Orguss 02) is the only way anyone knows of this. Being made right after Macross you can see how similar it is and how much they improved. The cels are a lot more detailed, the plot is just as complex. It wasn't until last year that I discovered this anime and I enjoyed it as much as I did the original Macross many years ago. It has everything you need, action, suspense, aliens and robots just like Macross. Even though it's been over a year, this is still the last great anime I've watched. 10/10 Perfection.
kinsol
Super Dimension Century Orguss... I was excited to start watching another anime from the person who directed Legend of the Galactic Heroes and SDF Macross, it evens looks like SDF Macross. What could possibly go wrong with this anime? Just about everything, I'm afraid. For reasons unknown to me, the budget for this anime is noticeably lacking. For those who have seen Macross and the infamously bad Max vs. Miriya knife duel, that's about how Orguss is ALL THE TIME. Reused frames and clunky character movements run rampant and no amount of directorial magic can draw attention away from it. Your eyes will be subject to bleeding if you watch this anime. What is Orguss all about then... The setting is an Earth that consists of many different versions of Earth due to a new dimensional bomb set off by the main character, Kei. Kei is transported to the future and must make the Earth right again while protecting himself from the various versions of humanity that want to use him for their own goals. Sounds good, right? Oh no, horrible memories are flooding back! One of these new "human" species look exactly the same as regular humans, except they have weird hair tentacles. This bothers Kei for about 2 seconds before he starts fawning over the sexy hair-tentacle women. The presence of the tentacles is merely so that they don't look exactly like humans, I can make this bold statement because their purpose is never mentioned throughout the rest of the show, nor do they seem to be of any use except as a reminder for them to be very careful around scissors. To add insult to injury, this beacon of evolution, the people who have easily ripped off hair-tentacles, can't have children after the age of 18. No, you did not read that wrong, every girl belonging to this species gets knocked up when they're underage. Oh, Japan... I also have to add, in one of the early episodes Kei notes how these people don't really mourn death the same way humans do. This is not adhered to or brought up again for the rest of show. It was too hard to write in an entire one cultural difference apparently. "Surely then," you ask, "the characters make up for it?" HAHAHAHA, did you think this would be anything like SDF Macross where there is an underlying character drama underneath the all mechs and lasers? Unfortunately, wrong. There is a vague attempt to make some melodrama by having the main character be a man-slut homewrecker, but we're saved from that horrible plot point by the convenient killing off of his competition. It's no spoiler, the guy has maybe four lines and nobody even likes him. Life lesson: infidelity is no problemo if the dude you're screwing over is a total jerk. I can't say much about the overall direction of Orguss, there isn't much of one to begin with. Just know, basically everything ends up having no consequence and everyone but maybe three characters could not have existed and it would have all ended the same anyway. Thanks for nothing, Orguss.
roothands
It took me a long time to get around to watching Orguss because nobody seemed to have anything good to say about it, and well, after watching it, I don't really get why it's so disliked/overlooked. It's not the best anime in the world (maybe people are comparing it to Macross because it's Studio Nue and most of the same staff worked on it?) but it's definitely an enjoyable little show that's worth watching at least once. Without giving too much away, the basic plot of the show centers around two pilots, Kei Katsuragi and Orson Verne, whose mission is to set off a "trans-dimensional bomb". It's the "near" future and the two factions that govern the world are fighting over the control of an orbital elevator. When it comes to this conflict, we don't get much more detail than that, but we don't need it, because as soon as the bomb goes off, Kei is transported to another earth, one where dimensions phase in and out and the earth's atmosphere is affected by some sort of extreme greenhouse effect. Kei is immediately discovered by a group of people who call themselves Emarns, a business-minded people who typically travel from place to place selling goods in sort of a floating spaceship-esque caravan, the Groma. Kei soon learns that he is one of two "differential points" (I kind of wonder if this could've been translated another way) -- this basically just means is that Kei is key to the restoration of the earth, which is becoming increasingly unstable. There is an antagonistic faction on the planet called Chiram who want Kei for their own purposes, and to complicate things, our heroes also have to contend with an entire civilization of genocidal robots hell bent on destroying all humans. From there, politics get a bit more complicated, as to be expected from an anime directed by Noburo Ishiguro; it's not as sophisticated as some of the other anime he has directed such as Legend of the Galactic Heroes or even Macross, but it's still complex enough that the story plays more like a pulpy late 60s sci-fi novel than your typical 80s mecha anime. Unfortunately, due to the pacing of the show (there is some filler and the last handful of episodes seem rather rushed, and the ending is completely abrupt) the story suffers a bit. The story really begins to pick up around episode 15, after Orson is reintroduced into the show (my favorite character by far and probably the best example of a "main hero b" I've seen in a mecha anime). I also feel like the conflict with the Muu robots could've been introduced a lot sooner than it was. With some better pacing this show could've been a lot better, but it's not hard to see what they were shooting for and the show is still enjoyable to watch. There are several WTF moments (Palm tree monsters! Gigantic grapes!) but those just add to the charm of the series and are imaginative, I mean, in a world where different dimensions phase in and out, why not have fun with it? The characters in this show are fun. Most of them are deeply flawed, but to get into detail about their flaws would spoil a lot of the show. The protagonist, Kei, is a "player" type of guy but has more charm than your typical Ataru Moroboshi-ish horny male anime lead. I started off really disliking him as his constant attempts to get with Mimsy were really annoying me, but over time you get to see a softer side of the character, a guy who is attracted to women but simultaneously genuinely cares for and respects not only women but everyone around him. In fact, this proves to be a major problem for him later in the series. Basically, Orguss is a really fun show with some great art (great example of early 80s Haruhiko Mikimoto character designs, which I absolutely love) and sporadic bits of decent animation, with an intriguing and original story, and really good music. (My absolute favorite OP and some of the BGM is actually quite good -- listen for the Morricone-ripoff theme!) Watch and judge for yourself, don't listen to the haters.
ephemerry
Trailing after Macross’ fameーhere lies a horrid follow-up called Super Dimensional Century Orguss. I mean, Orguss LOOKS good, but the characters and plot are all over the place. The main character is pretty much a womanizing, rape-y douche-solider that got warped into a parallel world, where’s there’s subsequently… a harem of hair-tentacle girls and a robot loli. Great. • So, our lovely protagonist, Kei Katsuragi, holds one of the girls, Mimsy, at knife point and tries to force her into kissing him. And because main character privilege, also known as protagonist syndrome, in real life, Mimsy eventually falls in love with him and he NTRs’ her fiancée. To make things worse, all of the women in this dimension have to have sex when they’re teenagers, because they’re infertile in adulthood apparently. What the fuck, Japan? • The what-the-fuckery gets more intense when you find out that the ship captain’s twin sister Maniisha is being so antagonistic to the crew because her husband originally wanted to sleep with her sister? How are you supposed to like any of these characters when even fucking Jabby, pretty much the Jar Jar Binks of the show, is shown cheating on his girlfriend in a flashback? Why didn’t Noboru Ishiguro just make a NTR hentai? • And the lolita robot-slave, I’m not fucking with you, gets jealous over Mimsey and expresses a romantic interest in the protagonist, which is partially reciprocated, because the main character is a piece of shit! Keep in mind: Noburo Ishiguro is the director behind Legend of the Galactic Heroes, the original Macross, Megazone 23, and the original Space Battleship Yamato, so Orguss’s visual direction is on point. That’s what makes it so bad… • There are some weird visual conniptions, in character movements and general robotic animation, but overall I thought the designs and directing were appealing to look at. I thought the idea of what would happen if a singularity were to exist within a parallel dimension was supremely dope, and wished that all of the internal character drama didn’t distract from the conceptual coolness. • I didn’t think that Orguss 02 was that much worse than the original, though obviously inferior in direction. There’s another rape-y, douchebag character, that’s not in the main cast, and actually gets bad karma in the end, instead of being celebrated as a hero home-wrecker. The main villain from 02 was silly, he’s exactly like Shakespeare’s Hamlet (not exaggerating), except if Hamlet wanted to destroy all of humanity to cover the Earth with beautiful flowers. • But, overall it isn’t that inferior to Ishiguro’s vision. The director who did the second series, Fumihiko Takayama, also was behind Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in Pocket, which I enjoyed. Both Orguss stories kind of made me feel trailer trash for watching them, with little-to-no sophistication with the writing. • The original Orguss is like a much, much worse version of the original Mobile Suit Gundam, as far as women being cast as meat bags that are just there to sleep with and don’t really do anything that useful, but the original Gundam actually has them written as human beings, not just conquests. • With the little eyebrow turns you gets from the dated subject matter in Gundam, you also get a superbly executed and iconic story, characters, and world. Whereas Orguss just seems like a cheap, bargain bin pulp magazine from the 80s. I did like how the story wrapped up at the end; Ishiguro is really great knotting together all of the strings of the story with a glorious conclusion in the endーnote to viewers: the prime example of this is Legend of the Galactic Heroes. • If you’re wondering why Legend of the Galactic Heroes is is considered the greatest sci-fi work in anime history; you have to watch it to the end to know what I’m talking about. Every question or head scratch you might have about the show is answered. I give the original series of Super Dimensional Orguss a 4/10 and Orguss 02 a 3/10.
Chiyo-pop
Orguss is a show I was introduced to through some youtube show or another which was ecstatic about its representation in Another Century's Episode: R (PS3, Bandai Namco/From Software, 2010). After playing through the game and the Orguss parts while stumbling through the dialouge (私の日本語がすごいない) I was impressed at the character art and mecha design. This led me to a website named gearsonline (easily searchable enough) which had enticing descriptions of the show, its cast, and some of the art. I also had found the intro song (Sky-hurricane by Casey Rankin, Life in the Sky, 1983) which had me in LOVE. It's incredibly triumphant, with a large range of emotion and expressions, the flanger guitar effect combined with poppy piano has me in tears. (Additionally, the best part of the song is the first half!) The accompanying animation is also splendid, colorful, and evocative. Really, if this entire anime was just this opening, it would be a 10/10! Gypsy is also a rather fun outro song, though not as imaginative. I am actually rather split on the overall tone and nature of Orguss. During this short review, I will try not to make comparisons - if I were to do that, I unfortunately just couldn't put it up to the high pedestal of modern classics such as Space Patrol Luluco (Trigger, 2016) - and judge it on its own merits. THE GOOD: Orguss has a very colorful palette, as shown in the intro. It pops very often with pleasing aesthetic design and direction. The budget feels rather low, but this doesn't really bother me so much. It's kind of funny rather, seeing cells of mecha just sorta slide into frame. A few more frames of animation sometimes would have a smoother presentation, and more kinetic energy, but I'm not a huge buff in this area and I generally enjoyed it. Animations do get reused, and this often feels a little lazy, but they're usually good to begin with. (Seeing the MC's stupid smiling face as he spins a stolen mecha in the air does warm my heart, even if half of it is stills that slowly pan or zoom in.) I also generally like the sound design, especially in the outerspace sections. The setting of the show allows for a huge melting pot of cultures, literally popping in and out of space and time around each other. This is, on its face, pretty exciting! Unfortunately, they don't really do a whole lot with the idea, but it leaves room to sort of imagine conflicts that could arise. You might get the theme at this point which the show has good ideas, BUT is lacking in execution. Orguss plays with these ideas in a sort of monster-of-the-week kind of way, which feels a bit lacking but still serves a purpose. Did I accidentally watch an 80s sitcom with a dumbass protagonist who bumbles his way into bad situations? Possibly. Characters do develop over time, especially the main character (thank FUCKING god). There isn't a lot of attention to the background characters in this area, but I feel that makes sense in context. The central drama is about the MC's internal conflicts - does he fight for himself? his ego? for his friends? does he experience love? or is he just selfishly using everyone for his own gains while protecting his fragile masculinity in whatever way he thinks he can? He is certainly in a scary and dreadful situation, losing everything he has except (for a moment) his aircraft, and his piloting ability. The only thing really left of Kei Katsuragi is to be a soldier, but the WHY of it is taken for granted - at least until he must confront it. THE BAD: As alluded to, the MC is a bit of a chauvinstic prick. It goes beyond just being a sexist asshole, he holds a woman at knifepoint and forces a kiss on her! She calls his bluff, that he would not actually hurt her with the knife, and he uses the kiss as a last ditch resort to establish some amount of control. Do I feel like there is an avenue for understanding this character, his plight, and the journey that he has to undertake to reach a point where he can respect others - and himself? Yeah. I think that's the only real reason I kept watching. He is really difficult to watch in the first few episodes, where that is a constant nuisance, and I wouldn't fault you for ditching the show based on that alone. A lot of these types of media live and die by the attractiveness of their main cast, physically and personality wise, and the MC is very hard to stomach - though he is a bit cute as an 80s anime boy. Leaving that aside, as difficult as it may be, the other characters just act kind of... weird. Mimsy Raas acts like a very stereotypical heroine in the beginning, with superficial dialogue and voice acting (in Japanese at least) that makes me think she is trying to be that way. Shaia Tobu is also strange, she constantly makes bad decisions, and will complain when others take control as if it were a game to play. The Emarns are described as believing in souls and not taking mortality as hard as you might expect, but this is not at all consistent when someone who is important to them dies, and is in very fact important whenever the plot demands it. I can't decide if this is bad storytelling or they just wanted to have an excuse for a lighter mood, to allow for more slapstick humor. A feature of the times. In either case, I'm not really a fan. As a contrivance of the plot, the MC has to be a good pilot and the enemy (Chiram soldiers) have to be bad pilots, unless the episode demands that one of them is good (random dude who evades every shot) for some amount of dramatic tension. Kei is just so fricking powerful in every scene until he loses due to absolute incompetence. There is kind of a weird connotation again, that the enemy is both so incredibly powerful and numerous yet also so stupidly weak. Why all the friendly fire?? Why do they seriously crash into each other when scared??? Did you guys not learn how to fly???? My suspension of disbelief only goes so far! As mentioned by another reviewer, it is weird emphasizing the Emarns' reproductive cycle, the 2:1 ratio of women to men, and the awkward loli-robot. All of these things are a bit creepy. I can however, apply an angle of culture shock to it, if only to allow myself to continue enjoying the show. Do these aspects of civilization seem a bit horny and nonsensical? Maybe, but that's a matter of perspective. If this type of thing WERE the case in a separate reality, I would probably just accept it at face-value, and move on. The show does not really linger on these topics as they're introduced - which also feels a bit off. The pacing of the show just kind of introduces concepts and then... continues. For the first 14 episodes, it's hard to say exactly what happens. The gang goes home. Setups will be created for the cast to feel righteous in some cold-hearted mecha murder action, and then they do it, rarely with consequence. Also, realizing that the dinosaur Jahvy was basically just Jar-Jar Binks made it hard to take any scene with him seriously. OVERALL: Super Dimension Century Orguss is a good show to watch in the background of something else! I don't think it lives up to the intro, but there's a lot of show to engage with nonetheless. The best thing I can really say is that it lasted 35 episodes, and all of them CAN be an enjoyable use of time. I cannot really tell anyone who isn't already interested to watch it, and it seems in describing it to my friends they have decided to never do so, but if the premise interests you - take a chance!
The_Namer
There's a strong feeling of early Gundam to the structure of this show. Most of it involves a group of misfits travelling through enemy territory in their ship, getting embroiled in local conflicts for an episode or two, and fending off attacks with their mechs. Where Gundam added variety with a new mech design almost every episode, Orguss instead shows us new species and cultures that have been mashed together in a cross-dimensional apocalypse. The broad strokes of the plot in Orguss are great, presenting some tough moral dilemmas for the characters to overcome. The scene-by-scene execution of those ideas often fall short, however, mostly due to clunky dialogue and a habit of telegraphing upcoming twists. The characters are likewise an entertaining bunch, from the playboy pilot to the grumpy old combat robot, but many aren't given enough screen time to develop. It remains a good watch throughout its 35-episode run though, and only really falls down in the final minute with a confusing and frustrating ending.
Spirit_Chaser
Super Dimension Century Orguss can be a way to make up for the feeling of loss after finishing Super Dimension Fortress Macross. Both were made by similar staff and were in production at the same time at some point. The story is it's own, and follows the story of Kei. He was blasted in an accident into a parallel world along with his friend Olsen. Once there, it's a struggle to try and get back home while at the same time falling in love with the new world he finds himself in. Compared to Macross, Orguss is inferior but still an interesting series going into early mecha. The series shares many of the same flaws as Macross. The production falls apart constantly. There is lot of reused animation, slide show like execution, and skips in animation. At least the characters don't look like clay sometimes such as in Macross. The ending felt rushed, odd, and underwhelming. I really enjoyed most of the beginning of the series. On the other hand, those few last episodes began to decline in quality and weren't as enjoyable. Music wise, hardly any of the songs were memorable. At the very least the opening and ending sequences are iconic. As a romance, there are several characters that get involved here. Whereas the previous series was based on a love triangle, there are several love triangles and love quadrilaterals going on in Orguss. You can expect lots of heavy drama in regards to this. Kei himself is an amusing and funny character. He always has something smart to say back even during dangerous situations. The man is always surrounded by women and is very flirtatious. At the same time, once he has really fallen in love he can fully commit, though he can make inappropriate comments at times that can make his girlfriends jealous. He makes a lot of mistakes but ultimately is a good man. Throughout the series, he tries to adjust to the way life works in this new Earth, and travels around after meeting the crew of the ship called The Factory. It's revealed that he and Olsen are the singularities. They would come to understand that they have become the keys towards restoring the Earth. Kei can also be very reckless to the point his life can be carelessly put in heavy danger. Olsen is his friend who thinks much more rationally. He doesn't succumb as easily to his feelings unlike Kei. He is often calm, cool, and collected. He often wears shades for his iconic look and tries to be Kei's voice of reason. Mimsy is, you could say, the Minmay of Orguss in a few ways, except Mimsy's character is too involved in emotion than actually growing and developing as a character. She is just something to protect and not much else. Her character design can look very beautiful at times when she isn't drawn in odd ways. She is part of a race that look like humans, except that they have two tentacles that made Kei panic once he noticed them. They are sort of like the Zentradi from Macross in that they live life oddly in Kei's view, while at the same time they are not too familiar with the culture of Kei's human race. She is Slay's girlfriend who finds Kei as a bother as he has a target on his back and is constantly bringing trouble back home to the crew. Mome is another focus of the series as a cybernetic girl with many useful skills. She is head over heels over Kei despite that he has no interest whatsoever. Her story is touching but feels like a tragedy overall. There are sadly many characters who don't do too much by the end and don't really feel worth mentioning. Still, there are a few more who are memorable such as the adorable duo pilots Lieea and Maaie, Shaya who gets involved in her own love triangle, Athena the conflicted soldier, the loveable Jabby, and the loyally protective captain robot. Despite the animation quality at times, Orguss still can look beautiful. It comes from a time where hand drawn animation beautifully put attention to detail in its own respectable way compared to modern anime. I can appreciate that it does very well in animating the entire characters bodies and in showing body language. You look at modern anime today that is so painfully bland and many times executed as still frames with flapping mouths that really make you appreciate the animation of Orguss. Orguss overall was a very enjoyable series despite it's many flaws. I would have called it a masterpiece if it wasn't for that small mediocre chunk of episodes towards the end.
justinharsey
When someone decides to dive deep into a person or studio's works, it can lead down some interesting paths. How I came to watch this series is one of those. My original plan was to look into the works of Shinichiro Watanabe, the man behind Cowboy Bepop. While looking into his filmography, his first directorial work was Macross Plus, an OVA of the Macross franchise. It's no surprise that many directors get their start in franchises, but now this meant looking into Macross. When looking into Macross, I came to learn that it was originally part of what is known as the Super Dimension trilogy and was used for what would be the english Robotech project. I could have skipped this trilogy, but I decided to go all-in (as much as I could). Now that this backstory is done, let's get to the series in question. Orguss is quite an interesting piece in all of this. The second series in the Super Dimension trilogy, released in 1983, the year after Macross, it's become quite an oddity in anime history. Aside from Macross that branched into its own franchise, Orguss is the only part of the Super Dimension trilogy to have a sequel in the form of an OVA series in the 1990s & to not be part of Robotech. Instead, another series animated by the same studio was chosen instead, Genesis Climber MOSPEADA. The reason for this chose might be due to the nature of Orguss. Orguss goes hard into its sci-fi element. While Macross and Southern Cross have mostly aliens, Orguss has interdimensional wibbly-wobbly-timey-whimey-stuff. (Never thought I'd use this Doctor Who to describe anything so accurately.) There's a cluster bomb that bends space-time warping multiple different realities of Earth onto a single point that also causes instabilities and shifting landscapes by constant distortions. With that in place, it conflicts too much with the rest of the Super Dimension to fit into Robotech. While this might make Orguss the black sheep, it is by far not the worst. The Super Dimension trilogy is a case of diminishing returns at its best; Macross is phenomenal, while Southern Cross becomes a very convoluted generic mecha series to the point that sponsors started dropping out leaving Southern Cross about a third incomplete. Orguss might have ended that way if the initial few episodes were anything to go by, but it recovers gracefully. Noboru Ishiguro is a legend in classic anime. A man who was a key figure in iconic series such as Space Battleship Yamato, Macross, Megazone, and Legend of the Galactic Heroes, his style is unmistakable. It would not be farfetched to say this is the man who helped invent the term anime. Ishiguro played a role in Orguss, though it seems it was codirected. To the extent of what all he directed, that is a bit hard to say. From watching, a guess would be around Episode 12 where events start to take move. A fair problem Orguss has is its first third. While the first 2 episodes are fine, the series starts to slump. The episodes are more broken and episodic compared to its older brother Macross. There are some good points of exposition that do come into play in the latter parts, but as far as direction goes, the first third of Orguss is weak. After Episode 12 after the introduction of a certain character, the series picks up and starts bringing in some key directing styles of Ishiguro building to an ending you won't want to miss. The ending itself, without going into detail, is interesting. It's a mix of ambiguous, quick, and definitive. It's hard to describe yet not as abstract as akin to Clannad After Story's. The only way I can describe it is... imagine Total Recall meets North By Northwest. I know, a bit hard to swallow, but it is unique and not bad. As a side note, its ED is catchy. It's got that 1980s tribal pop vibe to it like Toto's "Africa" & Men at Work's "Down Under". That's a very underrated genre if you can call it that. Overall, Orguss is a bit of the forgotten child that should be watched. The first third is weak, the second third brings the narrative around, while the third builds into a gorgeous finale. If you love Macross, if you grew up on Robotech and never heard of this, if you are a die-hard Ishiguro fan, if you want to see what a legend has worked on, or you're going off on your own crazy watch research like I'm doing, give this a shot. Whether or not you stick with it is up to you. Trust me, I almost thought of dropping it in the first third, but I'm glad I didn't completely let it go.
spacenewtype
Immediately off the bat, I think there is a lot of visual appeal. The character designs, colours, animations are all very good. If you go in blind, as I did, the story setup is quite interesting as well. Main character ends up in a parallel world mashup and so it’s quite a weird situation for the main character and viewer. Very few characters ever react in the way you expect them to and it’s fun to put together what each factions ‘deal’ is. While the story drive is not initially as driven as something like Macross, where you know what the goal is for all the characters at any point in the story, Orguss takes a more leisurely pace in my opinion. That being said, there's a reveal about 12 episodes in which makes things very interesting all over again and the show largely maintains the momentum until the end. I would say the biggest issue with the show is the inconsistent characterization, and the consistency of episode to episode finer point details. At times, it felt like two different writing teams were working on it and had different ideas on where the characters were at a certain point in time. Most of the time this is not an issue, however every once in a while, there's a really weird episode that just feels 'off' in its pacing and execution. Maybe a different staff leading the production for an episode? It gives a disjointed feel and trips up the good momentum the show builds up. It also reeks havoc on the main character’s personality more than once. He'll get very introspective and thoughtful about his responsibilities to the people around him, and then the next episode he is overly manic or depressive with little reasoning. The ending was more than a little baffling to me. It seems to be a happy ending, though I really did not understand how these conclusions were reached and it was all over in less than a minute. An extended epilogue would have been worth it’s weight in gold, but they didn’t even play over the final end credits. There were a ton of unresolved plot points left to hang there. Overall, I liked this show. I was going to give it a 7; it’s strengths are greater than the sum of it’s flaws, but dissatisfaction with the quality of the ending specifically makes me lean more towards 6. A fun show with interesting ideas and nice character designs, but ultimately not up to snuff in the story department and doomed to wilt in the shadow of it’s sister show Macross.